Hydrogen: Differences

  • Three times as heavy as fossil fuels.

  • One-quarter as dense as fossil fuels.

 

  • → Need to design new airplanes

    • Airbus is on it.

 

  • Transportable like natgas,

    • but more corrosive.

Hydrogen: Production Cost

Cost, $ per MWh:

  • Natgas Benchmark: $20

 

Hydrogen, $ per MWh:

  • Brown (From NatGas): $27

  • Blue (With Capture): $85

  • Green (From Electrolysis): $130

Green Hydrogen Future?

  • In 30 Years: $30/MWh (?)

    • Natgas only a little cheaper?

    • or maybe not even? Maybe catalyst breakthroughs?!

 

  • Competitive against natgas?!

    • May depend on location, too.

    • hydrogen needs no special natgas reservoirs.

Green Hydrogen Future?

Speculating on hydrogen is speculating on:

  1. Intermittent energy becomes nearly free.

    • Facilitates cheap hydrogen.
  2. Energy storage remains expensive.

    • Batteries can’t do most jobs better.

Green Hydrogen Future?

  • Competitive against batteries?

    • Cheaper solar electricity will also reduce cost of battery-stored electricity.

    • Ionic bonds absorb and release energy easier than chemical covalent bonds.

    • Batteries’ fixed cost may not scale easily,

      • but batteries are in front of the cost curve.
    • Wires are limited transport technology.

      • Hydrogen from Saudi to Europe?!

Hydrogen: Likely Future Uses

  • Transportation, off-grid:

    • Almost surely ships and planes.

    • Maybe trucks, but we can disagree.

  • Hydrogen for seasonal energy storage:

    • Unlikely for a long time.

    • Speculates on lack of progress in batteries.

 

H already also used for fertilizer production.

Hydrogen: Less Likely Futures

  • Any uses suitably satisfied with limited battery capacity:

    • Batteries will likely always be more efficient.

      • Think less resistance both in and out;

      • Cheap solar energy reduces cost, too.

    • Batteries will recharge within minutes.

    • Batteries will improve greatly, too.

What do you think? Near-grid transportation?

Hydrogen: Bad Idea, Cars

Hydrogen’s Kinetic Problem

Assume that hydrolysis is free and we have already have the input energy here.

  • Efficiency of hydrogen for kinetic power:

    • 40\% with a fuel cell first making electricity;

    • 30\% with a piston combustion heat engine.

  • Efficiency of battery: 75\%.

Hydrogen: Stupid Ideas, Heat

  • Use electricity first to make hydrogen, then burn it to make heat.

  • Instead, just make heat with electricity.

  • → Avoids hydrogen roundtrip.

 

Would you make hydrogen to immediately burn it??

Green Hydrogen Future?

  • Invest??

 

Where can hydrogen replace natgas?

Where can hydrogen replace batteries?

 

Green hydrogen for storage, transportation, etc., may not happen for decades, if ever.

Industrial, Steel, Cement

  • Tough to replace fossil fuels for heat.

  • Fossil fuels are one-trick ponies,

    • … and this is their trick!
  • Industrial heat will probably be the last bastion of fossil fuels.

    • Also, this discussion has omitted important issues on steel, cement, etc.

Agriculture

  • Most models identify agricultural yields as primary cost of CC?!

    • Seems pessimistic,

      • like early clean-tech forecasts.
    • Boffins are decoding life now.

    • There is a lot we may be able to do.

    • But it’s not certain.

Agricultural Emissions

  • About 20% of global GHG today.

  • Methane is especially bad:

    • Lots of methane From rice and cattle.

    • Richer people like beef and milk, so their consumption will increase.

 

  • Farmers also overuse nitrogen.

    • Unrealistic: tax fertilizers more.

Agriculture

  • Farmers are not stupid!

    • They tend to be conservative,

    • and they are politically very powerful.

  • Farming is

    • Result of millennia of improvements.

    • Large and decentralized.

    • Cut-throat business.

  • Appeal to social or ecological conscience.

Ag Progress I

  • Ag should be able to improve:

    • Ag will need many different solutions,

    • e.g., Asparagopsis, flooding, tilling, etc.

    • Technology is progressing, too:

      • GMO and CRISPR/Cas9 are promising,

      • especially for poor country crops.

  • Cut-throat business favors efficiency

    • if more efficient to pollute…

 

(conflict-of-interest disclosure)

Ag Progress Ii

  • Stupid environmentalism can cause big unnecessary environmental problems.

  • Humanity cannot go back to nature!

  • Boffins can reduce ecological problems!

    • Chemicals are necessary to feed humanity, but created many environmental problems.

    • Biotech now can be on side of environmentalism.

Ag Progress Ii

  • Newer better foods need consumer acceptance.

    • Do not bless non-sense food labels.

    • ‘Natural foods’, my … .

      • Can natural foods use pesticides?

      • Cyanide is natural, too

    • Is genetic modification intrinsically bad?

      • What do you think you are eating today?

      • How do you think you arose?

Disclaimer

  • Good reasons to oppose many farm practices:

    • Such as inhumane animal farming.

    • But please don’t oppose better crops.

  • Good reasons to be careful, too:

    • New technologies may have risks.

    • Very unlikely. (Make boffins eat!)

    • External application of chemicals more likely more harmful to people and environment.

Personally, I pay extra for humanely farmed animals, but I have no illusions that this will change the world.

More Earth Solutions

  • Food waste

  • Landfills

 

USA Specific

Methane

  • Not just USA or OECD problem.

  • Often from oil&gas operations

    • standard o&g mode is don’t cap, sell off.

      • end-of-life deposits are ridiculously low.
    • Needs stronger penalties, incl. at EOL.

      • reach-back liability?
    • Needs constant measuring of emissions.

      • easy satellite detection!
    • Needs resistance to lobbying,

      • hardest to manage, given reality.

Global Methane Emissions

Yet Others

Lots of mundane stuff. For example:

  • Improve insulation:

    • incentives, guarantees, financing.
  • Thermal energy storage.

  • Heat pumps:

    • 400% efficiency!

Conclusion

  • Energy from fossil fuels is the world’s biggest pollution issue.

    • Don’t be too bullish on hydrogen,

    • but hydrogen will likely play a role.

  • Many other GHG emissions need clean solutions, too.

  • Humanity can tackle agricultural & food emissions better.

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